{"id":153,"date":"2015-08-17T16:43:00","date_gmt":"2015-08-17T16:43:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/esconeighbors.wpenginepowered.com\/?p=153"},"modified":"2015-08-17T16:43:00","modified_gmt":"2015-08-17T16:43:00","slug":"troubling-article-in-voice-of-san-diego-about-lilac-hills-developer-and-report-from-pc-tour","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/?p=153","title":{"rendered":"Troubling Article in Voice of San Diego about Lilac Hills Developer and Report from PC Tour"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is a very troubling but fantastic article about the Lilac Hills Travesty.<a href=\"http:\/\/www.voiceofsandiego.org\/topics\/land-use\/developer-wont-take-no-for-an-answer-on-massive-lilac-hills-ranch-project\/?utm_source=Voice+of+San+Diego+Master+List&amp;utm_campaign=a7048f4c09-Morning_Report&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_term=0_c2357fd0a3-a7048f4c09-81845413&amp;goal=0_c2357fd0a3-a7048f4c09-81845413\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Lilac Hills Develop Tactics<\/a><br \/>\nThis project is the frontline of defense of the new County General Plan &nbsp;We urge everyone to support the local communities efforts to preserves their community.<\/p>\n<p>\nHere is some additional info about the Planning Commission tour that we just received. &nbsp;This is something worth getting involved in. &nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\"><br \/>\nThis is a brief Community report from <\/span><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 10.0pt;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/saveoursdcountryside.org\/\">SaveOurSDCountryside.org<\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\"> on the<br \/>\nsite visit trip taken by all seven planning commissioners and staff Wednesday,<br \/>\nAugust 12, 2015.<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<b><span style=\"color: red; font-family: &quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 10.0pt;\">LATE BREAKING NEWS FLASH \u2013 VOICE OF SAN DIEGO INVESTIGATES<\/span><\/b><span style=\"color: red; font-family: &quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 10.0pt;\"> 5am<br \/>\nMonday August 17, 2015<\/span><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\"> [link below]<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.voiceofsandiego.org\/topics\/land-use\/developer-wont-take-no-for-an-answer-on-massive-lilac-hills-ranch-project\/\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 10.0pt;\">http:\/\/www.voiceofsandiego.org\/topics\/land-use\/developer-wont-take-no-for-an-answer-on-massive-lilac-hills-ranch-project\/<\/span><\/a><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">The<br \/>\nCommissioners made the four stops on the site visit indicated by the County Map<br \/>\nat this link <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sandiegocounty.gov\/content\/dam\/sdc\/pds\/PIT\/lilac_bos_drive2.pdf\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 10.0pt;\">http:\/\/www.sandiegocounty.gov\/content\/dam\/sdc\/pds\/PIT\/lilac_bos_drive2.pdf<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">&nbsp; to view Roads, Evacuation Routes, and impacts<br \/>\nto existing property owners that are not a part of the Lilac Hills Ranch<br \/>\nProject. Community Storyboard copies for the Commissioners were sent to County<br \/>\nStaff Tuesday, August 11.<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">However,<br \/>\nCounty Staff could not share the Community Storyboards with the Commissioners<br \/>\nbecause of regulations about Planning Commission hearings.&nbsp; The<br \/>\nstoryboards provided details about each stop the Community envisioned, even if<br \/>\nthey weren&#8217;t on the final tour itinerary. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">The Storyboards will be provide<br \/>\nto the Commissioners in full accordance with laws and regulations before the<br \/>\nSeptember 11<sup>th<\/sup> Public Hearing. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\"><br \/>\nThe Commission voted 7-0-0 that Public testimony would &#8220;reopen&#8221; for<br \/>\nthe new information.<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">Again,<br \/>\nthe Public was not able to interact with the Planning Commissioners about the<br \/>\nProject, was prohibited from interacting with the Commissioners about the<br \/>\nProject.<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">At 4<br \/>\nstops, the County Staff provided a brief overview of the Stop location and its<br \/>\nrelevance to the Project.<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">The<br \/>\nCommissioners could then speak into a recording microphone to ask questions<br \/>\nthat will be answered later by County Staff and\/or the Developer.&nbsp; The entire visit was also videotaped by<br \/>\nCounty Staff.<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">No<br \/>\n&#8220;supporters&#8221; of the Project attended.&nbsp; <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">A few<br \/>\nneighbors joined the 40 person entourage over the 5 stops and two hours.<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">Media<br \/>\ncoverage was provided by Channel 8 News Investigative Report team <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cbs8.com\/story\/29773310\/planning-commissioners-tour-site-of-proposed-lilac-hills-ranch-developments\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 10.0pt;\">http:\/\/www.cbs8.com\/story\/29773310\/planning-commissioners-tour-site-of-proposed-lilac-hills-ranch-developments<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">;<br \/>\nJHarry Jones of the Union Tribune <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sandiegouniontribune.com\/news\/2015\/aug\/12\/lilac-hills-valley-center-commission-tour\"><span style=\"font-family: &quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif; font-size: 10.0pt;\">http:\/\/www.sandiegouniontribune.com\/news\/2015\/aug\/12\/lilac-hills-valley-center-commission-tour<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">; Joe<br \/>\nNaiman of the Fallbrook Village News; and Dan Weisman of the Valley Center<br \/>\nRoadrunner.<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">If<br \/>\neveryone that was interested tried to participate, the Site Visit would have<br \/>\nbeen unsafe and been aborted at any&nbsp;point safe passage was a problem.&nbsp; <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">Driving<br \/>\nand parking for the 25 cars at the stops was difficult and resulted in long<br \/>\nuphill walks for many participants.<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">&nbsp; <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">The Community hit the right<br \/>\nbalance&nbsp;to demonstrate overwhelming Public concern, yet not shut down the<br \/>\nVisit. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<u><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">Some Details<\/span><\/u><span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\"> <br \/>\nThe starting point was the park and ride lot at Highway 76 and Old Highway 395<br \/>\nnext to I-15. It was apparent that the one and only bus stop nearest the<br \/>\nproject was nearly 3-miles from the project entrance. County Project Manager Mark<br \/>\nSlovick pointed out the 10 road standard modifications being requested.<br \/>\nChairman Woods emphasized that there would be no statements\/questions from the<br \/>\nPublic or questions from the Commissioners to the Public <i>about the Project <\/i>during the tour, but did say that public<br \/>\ntestimony regarding the tour would be opened on 11 September.&nbsp; All<br \/>\nCommissioner questions were directed to the Staff, with Project Manager Mark<br \/>\nSlovick as the County Spokesman.&nbsp; Answers<br \/>\nto the questions asked during the tour were deferred until the 11 September<br \/>\ncontinuation of hearing. Most of the questions asked are ones that the<br \/>\nCommunity has been asking for the past five years. All seven commissioners<br \/>\nasked at least one question of staff, some asked many questions. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">The entourage of county<br \/>\nvehicles, highway patrol, press and community members followed a leisurely<br \/>\npace&nbsp;up the 395 grade, over the Maxwell Bridge, past the nominal entrance<br \/>\nto the project and through the &#8220;hairpin&#8221; turn on West Lilac Road to<br \/>\nCALFIRE seasonal wildfire Station 15 at Miller Road. There the discussion<br \/>\nfocused on modifications to West Lilac Road [to a 2.2C classification as well<br \/>\nas the hairpin turn]. Slovick noted that the Staff was not inclined to endorse<br \/>\n3 of the 10 County Road Standard modification requests.&nbsp; County&nbsp;Department<br \/>\nof Public Works was present and sympathetic to the safety issues being<br \/>\ndiscussed and observed. Neighbors along the stretch of W. Lilac Rd. that is<br \/>\nopposite Station 15 had their front yards staked and taped to indicate the<br \/>\nextent their land would be taken by the County for road widening needed to<br \/>\naccommodate the project. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">At the next stop, Covey Lane,<br \/>\nthe entourage parked near Mark and Karen Jackson&#8217;s&#8217; house where the Community<br \/>\nhad taped and painted a large red X on the pavement to show the proposed 80<br \/>\nfoot wide crossing of Covey Lane by the main proposed internal Lilac Hills<br \/>\nRanch Road. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">Just as indicated in the Friday<br \/>\nAug 7th briefing. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">Aside from concerns expressed<br \/>\nabout the topography of the intersection and the resolution of the private\/public\/private\/public<br \/>\ntransition of the Covey Lane roadway along its length, Slovick also pointed out<br \/>\nthe extent of the Project from that vantage. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">The procession moved on to<br \/>\nMountain Ridge Private Road at Megan Terrace where Slovick explained the scope<br \/>\nof changes necessary to bring Mountain Ridge up to a 25 mph design speed and to<br \/>\naccommodate right turns from Circle R onto Mountain Ridge. Commissioner<br \/>\nBarnhart took time to walk to the western edge of the roadway to peer down the<br \/>\nside to the wetland below, scratching his chin. Several questions were recorded<br \/>\nabout the County design standards for such roads. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">The tour moved to the final<br \/>\nstop at the Deer Springs FPD Station 11 on Circle R. With the noise from the<br \/>\nfire station, I couldn&#8217;t readily hear the questions being quietly asked into<br \/>\nthe microphone of the audio\/video recording, but there were several and the<br \/>\nlast one made clear that commissioners would be allowed to interact with the<br \/>\nPublic regarding the tour at the 11 September Hearing.&nbsp; <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">Channel 8 was recording and<br \/>\ntaking audio\/video bites at four of the stops and the U-T and the Roadrunner<br \/>\nwere also taking notes and soliciting comments. Accretive had only one<br \/>\nidentifiable representative, Chris Brown, a County registered Lobbyist for the<br \/>\nProject. The county staff included two lawyers, PDS staff, PDS communications<br \/>\nspecialist, PDS consultant Kristin Blackson, and Director Mark Wardlaw.&nbsp;<br \/>\nFour of the five County Supervisors had their Land Use Policy Aides in<br \/>\nattendance. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">Overall,<br \/>\nthe field trip was very positive for those opposing the project and informative<br \/>\nfor those that had been past supporters of the Project.&nbsp; Reality is best seen personally at the<br \/>\nlocation. <\/p>\n<p>It is of extreme importance that the Community is now able to address the<br \/>\nCommission regarding the Staff Visit on 11 September. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">To<br \/>\nrepeat for clarity, no additional testimony will be allowed about briefings<br \/>\nprovided on Aug 7th.&nbsp; Only new Site Visit information will be allowed. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">Detailed speaking rules, such<br \/>\nas whether speakers that had briefed Aug 7th will be able to rebrief on Sept 11<br \/>\nare to be determined.&nbsp; The Commission will be fair about this and not<br \/>\ntrick anyone. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<div>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">The<br \/>\ninvolved Community has and will continue to present the facts about the Project<br \/>\nwithout adjectives to the Commission and the Public. <\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<p><\/p>\n<div>\n<span style=\"font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;\">The Planning Commission decision on the Project September 11, 2015<br \/>\nwill be an informed decision.<\/span><o:p><\/o:p><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/\"><\/a><span><\/span><span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is a very troubling but fantastic article about the Lilac Hills Travesty.Lilac Hills Develop Tactics This project is the frontline of defense of the new County General Plan &nbsp;We urge everyone to support the local communities efforts to preserves &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/?p=153\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-153","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"featured_image_src":null,"featured_image_src_square":null,"author_info":{"display_name":"Escondido Neighbors United","author_link":"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/?author=1"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/153","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=153"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/153\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=153"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=153"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/escondidoneighbors.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=153"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}